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From Where Did The Redhaired People Come From?
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John Winston
2010-12-03 07:13:51 UTC
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Subject: From Where Did The Redhaired People Come?
Dec. 2, 2010.

Here is some information about the origin of the
redhaired people.

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by Mary Sutherland

from BurlingtonNews Website

ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_tuathadedanaan04.htm

In the Takla Makan Desert in central Asia, mummies of
non-Asian peoples were found. The mummies are dated
to be 3,800 years old.

Builders along the Silk Road were know as the Tocharians
2,000 years ago. Were they related to the Mummy People?

Red Haired Mummies of China

from BurlingtonNews Website

A Tocharian man with red-blond hair; his
clear European features still visible after nearly
3,500 years in his desert grave in China.
Recent excavations in the Tarim Basin in
Xinjiang province have uncovered more than 100
naturally mummified corpses of people who lived
there between 4,000 and 2,400 years ago, indicating
that the Aryan race of red and blonde hair with
blue eyes lived in this area at one time.

The bodies were amazingly well preserved by
the arid climate, and according to the New York
Times:

"...archaeologists could hardly believe what
they saw."

The mummies had long noses and skulls, blond
or red hair, thin lips, deepest eyes, and other
unmistakably Aryan features. Dr. Victor H. Mair of
the University of Pennsylvania said,

"Because the Tarim Basin Caucasoid corpses
are almost certainly representatives of the
Indo-European family, and because they date from
a time period early enough to have a bearing on
the expansion of the Indo-European people from
their homeland, it is thought that they will play
a crucial role in determining just where that might
have been."

One such mummy of a teenaged girl with blond
hair and blue yes, found in a cave, has become quite
a tourist attraction in Beijing. She has been
nicknamed "The Lady of Tarim" and she is on
display to throngs of museum visitors in the
Chinese capital.

Apparently she was a princess or a priestess
of some kind over 3,000 years ago, for she was
buried in fine embroidered garments of wool and
leat her, along with beautiful jewelry, jars and
ornaments of gold, silver, jade and onyx. Her
remains are in such a remarkable state of
preservation that the dead girl looks as if she
were just sleeping.

A Tocharian female mummy with long flaxen
blond hair, perfectly preserved in ponytails. Items
of weaved material, identical to Celtic cloth.

One of the most famous Tocharian mummies
found, the so-called "Beauty of Loulan"; and her
face, to the right, as reconstructed by an artist.

Close-up of a Tocharian male, and to the right
is a swastika decoration found on a clay bowl
recovered from the Tocharian grave sites. The
swastika was part of the original Indo-European
language, meaning "well being".
It seems that this symbol was universally accepted
as such.

A search of a museum reveals a young woman
with an overbite, which is European in nature,
and a elderly man with reddish hair. They also
find woolen textiles woven into twill and tartan
patterns in blue, white, and red. Similar to the
Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe. Scientific
reconstruction of the heads of the mummies
produces a face that strongly resembles ancient
Celts and Saxons.

The mummy people used the wheel long before
it was known in China, and may have played a
role in introducing it to Chinese civilization.

There are 3,000-year-old rock engravings similar
to ones in Bulgaria and the Ukraine. The
characters have long noses, long faces and round
eyes. According to the ancient Chinese, the
European nomads had red hair, bluish-green eyes
and had long noses.

DNA EVIDENCE

In, The World's first DNA PCR investigation of
Biological Evidence from an Alien Abduction, by
Bill Chalker, Anomaly Physical Evidence Group
(APEG) we find that a Sydney, Australia abduction
experience from 1992, with biological evidence,
became the subject of the world's first DNA PCR
"alien abduction" related investigation, yielding
intriguing results that have suggested fascinating
new lines of investigation and speculation... (For
the complete story click HERE.)

The original DNA work was done on the shaft of
the hair recovered from an ET by the abductee.
Anomalies were found in the root of the hair. Two
types of DNA were found depending on where
the mitochondrial DNA testing occurs, namely
confirming a RARE CHINESE TYPE DNA in the
hair shaft and indicating a rare possible
BASQUE/GAELIC type DNA in the root section.

The hair sample seems to show it contains 2
deleted genes for CCR5 protein and no intact
gene for normal undeleted CCR5 - this CCR5
deletion factor has been implicated in aids
resistance.

The nature of these genetic findings has lead
to some interesting possible connections with
ancient cultures, myths and archaeological finds
such as the strange Taklamakan mummies in
China (tall European like peoples with red hair....
some of whom had blonde hair) - see above insert.

MYTHOLOGICAL AND LEGENDS

The stories of the female Basque God Mari and
the Gaelic Irish tales of the Tuatha da Danann.
The Tuatha tales describe powerful g-ds with
orange or blonde hair and other unusual
attributes.

Mari - the neolithic Go-dess of Old Europe
and the primary deity in Basque mythology - has
many manifestations, including "as a tree
that looks like a woman or a tree emitting
flames", "a white cloud or rainbow, or a ball of
fire in the air", a "sickle of fire, as which she
appears crossing the sky" and "seen enveloped
in fire, lying down horizontally, moving through
the air".

The records from ancient Ireland describe
a whole series of invasions. The "Lebor Gabala
Erren" ("The Book of the Taking of Ireland"),
compiled during the 12th century A.D. describes
the coming of the mysterious Tuatha de' Danann
or Tribe of Danu. They were apparently tall,
blond or red-haired strangers, "expert in the arts
of pagan cunning", who supposedly interbred with
the locals, while teaching them many kinds of
useful skills.

The Lebor Gabala records their dramatic
entrance to Ireland as follows:

"In this wise they came, in dark clouds from
northern islands of the world. They landed on the
mountains of Conmaicne Rein in Connachta, and
they brought a darkness over the sun for three
days and three nights. Gods were their men of
arts, and non-gods their husbandmen."

A gold ship model from 1st century BC Broighter,
Ireland.

There are many stories of aerial ships or
"demon ships" ("loinger demnacda" ) in the
Irish annuals.

According to the mythic tales the Tuatha de'
Danann were advanced enough to arrive in
western Ireland (near modern Connacht) by
air. They divided into two social classes:

1.. "-ods" as teachers of medicine, smithing,
communication or druidry

2.. "non-g-ds" as farmers or shepherds

Although no one knows for certain what the
Tuatha looked like, descriptions , such as of their
female war-leader Eriu, indicate tall attractive
people with pale skin, high foreheads, long
red hair and large blue eyes.

Other descriptions indicate blonde, golden
hair with blue eyes. The blonde haired woman
in the 1957 abduction of Antonio Villas Boas
also had red body hair (pubic hair). She seems
remarkably like Peter's female visitor, of which
DNA testing was done, and the description of
Eriu.

If the Tuatha cross-bred with local humans,
they would have left hybrid descendants who
look somewhat like themselves.

BILL CHALKER/APEG Reports the Following:

Many abduction cases exist where alleged
biological evidence has been reported. Such
events lend themselves to an established
forensic DNA profiling technique, which
could help establish the credibility of such
claims.

Since most abduction cases imply a measure
of unwanted assault on the victims of such
experiences, a forensic approach towards
verification of the alleged perpetrators is
desirable. Since DNA is the only building
block of life that we know, biological specimens
recovered in alleged abduction cases would
provide researchers with a clear point of
comparison.

A key claim by many abduction researchers
is that abductions involve some form of
genetic agenda. This scenario would require
compatibility between aliens and humans. The
claims of sexual encounters are alleged to add
further support to this scenario. This very
element amongst the extraordinary range of
fantastic claims made about abductions is
one of major stumbling blocks to the credibility
of abduction claims.

Mainstream science argues that if alien life
exists it is unlikely to be compatible with human
life. Hence any claims to the contrary, such as alien
abductions, are regarded as absurd. Therefore this
limited and focused DNA profiling technique goes
to the very heart of one of key claims behind the
alleged alien abduction agenda. It provides an
opportunity for testing the credibility of such
claims.

If such claims are true then there should be some
compatibility in the DNA of alleged alien
specimens, but some possible anomalies may be
evident that would perhaps not be readily reconciled
with measures of human DNA variability. One
established way of undertaking this is to undertake
such analysis with the goal to establish a precise
DNA base sequence of mitochondrial hypervariable
region I, spanning nucleotides 16,000 to 16,400 of
mitochondria l DNA.

Part 1.

John Winston ***@mlode.com
Nicko
2010-12-04 06:23:54 UTC
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ITYM "From whence do the Redhaired People Come From."
pete
2010-12-13 22:24:47 UTC
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Post by Nicko
ITYM "From whence do the Redhaired People Come From."
They come from "somewhence over thence".
--
pete
Dr. HotSalt
2010-12-14 15:48:14 UTC
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Post by pete
Post by Nicko
ITYM "From whence do the Redhaired People Come From."
ITYM "From Whence Do The Redhaired People Come Here From."
Post by pete
They come from "somewhence over thence".
IWPTA "somewhence over the fence", maybe an alternate line in
"Somewheeeeere Ooooover the Rainbow".


Dr. Hot"roll your own earworms, $20 SAIT"Salt
Leo Sgouros
2023-09-18 20:50:30 UTC
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Post by John Winston
Subject: From Where Did The Redhaired People Come?
Dec. 2, 2010.
Here is some information about the origin of the
redhaired people.
..........................................
..........................................
by Mary Sutherland
from BurlingtonNews Website
ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_tuathadedanaan04.htm
In the Takla Makan Desert in central Asia, mummies of
non-Asian peoples were found. The mummies are dated
to be 3,800 years old.
Builders along the Silk Road were know as the Tocharians
2,000 years ago. Were they related to the Mummy People?
Red Haired Mummies of China
from BurlingtonNews Website
A Tocharian man with red-blond hair; his
clear European features still visible after nearly
3,500 years in his desert grave in China.
Recent excavations in the Tarim Basin in
Xinjiang province have uncovered more than 100
naturally mummified corpses of people who lived
there between 4,000 and 2,400 years ago, indicating
that the Aryan race of red and blonde hair with
blue eyes lived in this area at one time.
The bodies were amazingly well preserved by
the arid climate, and according to the New York
"...archaeologists could hardly believe what
they saw."
The mummies had long noses and skulls, blond
or red hair, thin lips, deepest eyes, and other
unmistakably Aryan features. Dr. Victor H. Mair of
the University of Pennsylvania said,
"Because the Tarim Basin Caucasoid corpses
are almost certainly representatives of the
Indo-European family, and because they date from
a time period early enough to have a bearing on
the expansion of the Indo-European people from
their homeland, it is thought that they will play
a crucial role in determining just where that might
have been."
One such mummy of a teenaged girl with blond
hair and blue yes, found in a cave, has become quite
a tourist attraction in Beijing. She has been
nicknamed "The Lady of Tarim" and she is on
display to throngs of museum visitors in the
Chinese capital.
Apparently she was a princess or a priestess
of some kind over 3,000 years ago, for she was
buried in fine embroidered garments of wool and
leat her, along with beautiful jewelry, jars and
ornaments of gold, silver, jade and onyx. Her
remains are in such a remarkable state of
preservation that the dead girl looks as if she
were just sleeping.
A Tocharian female mummy with long flaxen
blond hair, perfectly preserved in ponytails. Items
of weaved material, identical to Celtic cloth.
One of the most famous Tocharian mummies
found, the so-called "Beauty of Loulan"; and her
face, to the right, as reconstructed by an artist.
Close-up of a Tocharian male, and to the right
is a swastika decoration found on a clay bowl
recovered from the Tocharian grave sites. The
swastika was part of the original Indo-European
language, meaning "well being".
It seems that this symbol was universally accepted
as such.
A search of a museum reveals a young woman
with an overbite, which is European in nature,
and a elderly man with reddish hair. They also
find woolen textiles woven into twill and tartan
patterns in blue, white, and red. Similar to the
Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe. Scientific
reconstruction of the heads of the mummies
produces a face that strongly resembles ancient
Celts and Saxons.
The mummy people used the wheel long before
it was known in China, and may have played a
role in introducing it to Chinese civilization.
There are 3,000-year-old rock engravings similar
to ones in Bulgaria and the Ukraine. The
characters have long noses, long faces and round
eyes. According to the ancient Chinese, the
European nomads had red hair, bluish-green eyes
and had long noses.
DNA EVIDENCE
In, The World's first DNA PCR investigation of
Biological Evidence from an Alien Abduction, by
Bill Chalker, Anomaly Physical Evidence Group
(APEG) we find that a Sydney, Australia abduction
experience from 1992, with biological evidence,
became the subject of the world's first DNA PCR
"alien abduction" related investigation, yielding
intriguing results that have suggested fascinating
new lines of investigation and speculation... (For
the complete story click HERE.)
The original DNA work was done on the shaft of
the hair recovered from an ET by the abductee.
Anomalies were found in the root of the hair. Two
types of DNA were found depending on where
the mitochondrial DNA testing occurs, namely
confirming a RARE CHINESE TYPE DNA in the
hair shaft and indicating a rare possible
BASQUE/GAELIC type DNA in the root section.
The hair sample seems to show it contains 2
deleted genes for CCR5 protein and no intact
gene for normal undeleted CCR5 - this CCR5
deletion factor has been implicated in aids
resistance.
The nature of these genetic findings has lead
to some interesting possible connections with
ancient cultures, myths and archaeological finds
such as the strange Taklamakan mummies in
China (tall European like peoples with red hair....
some of whom had blonde hair) - see above insert.
MYTHOLOGICAL AND LEGENDS
The stories of the female Basque God Mari and
the Gaelic Irish tales of the Tuatha da Danann.
The Tuatha tales describe powerful g-ds with
orange or blonde hair and other unusual
attributes.
Mari - the neolithic Go-dess of Old Europe
and the primary deity in Basque mythology - has
many manifestations, including "as a tree
that looks like a woman or a tree emitting
flames", "a white cloud or rainbow, or a ball of
fire in the air", a "sickle of fire, as which she
appears crossing the sky" and "seen enveloped
in fire, lying down horizontally, moving through
the air".
The records from ancient Ireland describe
a whole series of invasions. The "Lebor Gabala
Erren" ("The Book of the Taking of Ireland"),
compiled during the 12th century A.D. describes
the coming of the mysterious Tuatha de' Danann
or Tribe of Danu. They were apparently tall,
blond or red-haired strangers, "expert in the arts
of pagan cunning", who supposedly interbred with
the locals, while teaching them many kinds of
useful skills.
The Lebor Gabala records their dramatic
"In this wise they came, in dark clouds from
northern islands of the world. They landed on the
mountains of Conmaicne Rein in Connachta, and
they brought a darkness over the sun for three
days and three nights. Gods were their men of
arts, and non-gods their husbandmen."
A gold ship model from 1st century BC Broighter,
Ireland.
There are many stories of aerial ships or
"demon ships" ("loinger demnacda" ) in the
Irish annuals.
According to the mythic tales the Tuatha de'
Danann were advanced enough to arrive in
western Ireland (near modern Connacht) by
1.. "-ods" as teachers of medicine, smithing,
communication or druidry
2.. "non-g-ds" as farmers or shepherds
Although no one knows for certain what the
Tuatha looked like, descriptions , such as of their
female war-leader Eriu, indicate tall attractive
people with pale skin, high foreheads, long
red hair and large blue eyes.
Other descriptions indicate blonde, golden
hair with blue eyes. The blonde haired woman
in the 1957 abduction of Antonio Villas Boas
also had red body hair (pubic hair). She seems
remarkably like Peter's female visitor, of which
DNA testing was done, and the description of
Eriu.
If the Tuatha cross-bred with local humans,
they would have left hybrid descendants who
look somewhat like themselves.
Many abduction cases exist where alleged
biological evidence has been reported. Such
events lend themselves to an established
forensic DNA profiling technique, which
could help establish the credibility of such
claims.
Since most abduction cases imply a measure
of unwanted assault on the victims of such
experiences, a forensic approach towards
verification of the alleged perpetrators is
desirable. Since DNA is the only building
block of life that we know, biological specimens
recovered in alleged abduction cases would
provide researchers with a clear point of
comparison.
A key claim by many abduction researchers
is that abductions involve some form of
genetic agenda. This scenario would require
compatibility between aliens and humans. The
claims of sexual encounters are alleged to add
further support to this scenario. This very
element amongst the extraordinary range of
fantastic claims made about abductions is
one of major stumbling blocks to the credibility
of abduction claims.
Mainstream science argues that if alien life
exists it is unlikely to be compatible with human
life. Hence any claims to the contrary, such as alien
abductions, are regarded as absurd. Therefore this
limited and focused DNA profiling technique goes
to the very heart of one of key claims behind the
alleged alien abduction agenda. It provides an
opportunity for testing the credibility of such
claims.
If such claims are true then there should be some
compatibility in the DNA of alleged alien
specimens, but some possible anomalies may be
evident that would perhaps not be readily reconciled
with measures of human DNA variability. One
established way of undertaking this is to undertake
such analysis with the goal to establish a precise
DNA base sequence of mitochondrial hypervariable
region I, spanning nucleotides 16,000 to 16,400 of
mitochondria l DNA.
Part 1.
Though John has been correctly described as someone so harmless
hat the strongest thing he said about anyone
was that they might get a lump
of coal in their stocking. But to correct him, there are no such Aryan peopums.
John reposted alot of stuff about the space people and their agendas but the
Aryan thing, though common, is not an error to overlook

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